Duelist skills nerf?

ok

you nerfed cuz some fuking newbie complained with 0 elements omfg they hit so hard?

It was a small nerf, don't worry.

Halin wrote:It was a small nerf, don't worry.

Like what?
necro uses curse of gloom and suddenly starts to hit 600 dmg higher then I with archmage.
Necro - 1090
Archmage - 506 ftw

curse of gloom lands pretty much, however i have all items +16 elemented and rb jewels. GF.
And i'm not crying or complaining I'm just telling what is wierd Do whatever you want about this. But in my opinion duelist was good as it was before, no need for nerf.
However there is another story about Eva's Templar HP recovery, healing and etc. They heal too much. You nerfed battle heal? comon nerf those bastards too.

Btw is xxxJustforPlayxxXxXxXxXxXxVin DieselXxXx bannded or he just dont play?

Curse of doom might have a good landing, but surrenders delete the resist protection and gloom doesn't.

Only just.

resistance delete which only deletes like 20 out of 200+ attribute, has no change in dmg almost.
and not many people uses resist element buff, like i don't ..
and surrenders just don't land, no matter what, maybe 1/100 casts.

Daemonic wrote:resistance delete which only deletes like 20 out of 200+ attribute, has no change in dmg almost.
and not many people uses resist element buff, like i don't ..
and surrenders just don't land, no matter what, maybe 1/100 casts.

Agree. Disagree. Agree.

The last time i used surrender on a person was ages ago, even at +20 it lands almost never.

It deletes the buff, which is 20 + (4 * enchant lvl). With +10 buff it's 60 deleted.
You should use it.
Haven't tested myself. But I can say it deletes resistance for sure in the first or second cast.

it only lowers more IF it lands, and since it doesn't land anyway .. and ppl ratehr deal dmg then trying to land a failing land skill, it just uses up buff slots.

My opinion is that even if surrenders will change to land more, and they delete the resist buff( which will later be 60 or 120 or 180 or even more depending on the elements on armors, and after 120 it is minimum the bonus dmg) , it cannot be compared with the -23% debuff of gloom.

thematrix wrote:My opinion is that even if surrenders will change to land more, and they delete the resist buff( which will later be 60 or 120 or 180 or even more depending on the elements on armors, and after 120 it is minimum the bonus dmg) , it cannot be compared with the -23% debuff of gloom.

This is true, 23% is a big difference but gloom also lands quite rarely if your passives are high enough. Surrender will never land, ever

Piggy wrote:

thematrix wrote:My opinion is that even if surrenders will change to land more, and they delete the resist buff( which will later be 60 or 120 or 180 or even more depending on the elements on armors, and after 120 it is minimum the bonus dmg) , it cannot be compared with the -23% debuff of gloom.

This is true, 23% is a big difference but gloom also lands quite rarely if your passives are high enough. Surrender will never land, ever

i think i haven;t fight against TheH2O or Mer2 or ThisFukingNoobs sps

I still think the bonus of the elements is higher than 23%.

Halin wrote:I still think the bonus of the elements is higher than 23%.

It is if for example you have prominence with +15 fire vulnerability, vortex with +15 fire vuln and surrender with +fire vuln(Not actually to accurate, its probably hideously wrong). However thats 3 skills that a) have to land and b) have to be at least +10 as opposed to 1.